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02/15/2007

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Red Pen

[this is good] Great info. Thanks. I'll gladly sign the petition.

RedScylla

[this is good] Good stuff. I hadn't heard about the woman kicked off the plane for doing what any caring mother would do.  That's vicious.  Plus, I'll bet nursing is an excellent combatant against ear pressurization.

electric firefly

[this is good] Great post.  I just signed the petition - thanks for the link to that and the info on MomsRising.  I can't believe that it was only a couple of months ago that a woman was kicked off a plane for breastfeeding!  I had thought we were becoming more enlightened.  The people behind the airplane ejection must be the same idiots who thought of the "Indigenous nudity" warning for documentaries appearing on public television.  I cannot believe we have to separate out indigenous nudity from Western nudity.  I want to have a program where I (or someone more comfortable appearing nude) sit there totally naked and call it "Indignant Nudity."

Holly

The folks who thought up the "Indigenous Nudity" warning (haven't seen those, but what a hoot) are the same ones who got off on reading National Geographic as kids. No doubt, some dimwit thought just handing them a Playboy would be too "confusing." As a result, we now have well-educated dimwits.

And while I do prefer to shield my kids from watching anything that features "kinky" sex, I'm with those who cannot help but wonder why we'd prefer kids to see violence in movies than nudity or anything that even hints of sex?

Then again, we deprive kids of all appropriate outlets for their violent tendencies ("toy guns are bad!") and then expect them to be calm and well-adjusted? Sounds good, until you have children - particularly boys - of your own to raise.

Something Else

[ﻩﺫﺍ ﻩﻭ ﺎﻠﺤﻜﻣ] We were talking about this 26 years ago when I was a real radical for breastfeeding my kids (till well beyond their first birthdays!).  You'd think things would move on.  Or maybe people talked to my first ob/gyn who was trying to convince me to wean my son by telling me that baby boys have erections while they're nursing!  (You'd think he would've known they have them ALL THEIR LIVES !!!)  I'm signing.

Lokii

[this is good] fr33 t3h b00b13z!

Kind of sad that mothers (our most precious natural resource) are being discriminated against in this day and age.

Here in Oz public breastfeeding is perfectly acceptable, although you may get some stares and snickering from teenagers in the 14-17 bracket. I would say people who oppose breast-feeding just can't move with the times... but I'm pretty sure women 10,000 years ago breast-fed their cvhildren in public.


Holly

[this is good]

I'm pretty sure that 10,000 years ago, the only reason they wore clothes was to keep warm or shield themselves from insects or maybe even protect against sunburn. IF they wore clothes. You look at primitive tribes today; many still don't. We're just really up-tight. Which is not to say that I'm not a product of my era and my culture - I scream if a saleslady peeks through the slats of the dressing room door at a store to ask if I need anything. But there's a good reason for breastfeeding a child, and it should be totally acceptable anywhere it's okay for people and their children to eat.


It's funny - I actually got very few looks, snickers, or comments from teens when I was nursing my son. Most of it came from older women - women of the "Enfamil is best" generation (like my mom). My grandmothers were all for it - my dad's mom was truly an advocate for breastfeeding and never missed a chance to say how "proud" she was of me for choosing to feed my children that way.

devonrex

he's talking about boobies!!  heeheeheee...

devonrex

oh, oops...

she's talking about boobies!  heeheehee...

Ok, the moment is lost, that's not funny at all.

Holly

Did you think I needed a translation?? :/

devonrex

I can't stop myself from guilding the lily:)

Bee

[this is good] Kinda sad how some people even suggest taking my son to the restroom to
breastfeed -- as if they would want someone to serve their dinner on a
toilet?!?  I think not!  I breastfed my son -- in public or
private -- as long as he would breastfeed, and then (when he started to
boycott the breast) I expressed my milk to keep him off formula long
enough to make it to cow's milk...  With the cost of formula, I
don't know why more people don't breastfeed based solely on cost, let
alone the bonding time, the convenience for travel/midnight feedings,
and the nutritional benefits...  Everyone has a choice, but it was
a no-brainer for me...

RPM

[this is good] you know...(sorry for weighing in so late)...my mom retired from delta a few years back...and I am appalled. I am not against breastfeeding, not sure I'd do it - but it is so innocent, and it's a basic essential act. To prohibit it, further castrates our society and takes us away from our humanity. We'll shun a mother breastfeeding her infant, and watch another woman bend over to pick up her luggage and expose the crack of her ass.

People need to seriously buy a clue.

ashley

[this is good] just a big hell yeah.  i wish i'd had the ovaries to nurse my girls in public, but i was nervous of the backlash, so i'd just find a fitting room if we were at the mall, or have a bottle of ebm at hand.  now when i see moms nursing in public, i want to go give them a big high five or a pat on the back at least...

Holly

Thanks! It's really sad that we worry SO much about what others think that a few disapproving frowns or snide remarks can make us feel bad about feeding our children in public - giving them what doctors say is BEST for them. (And yet, do something that's not BEST for them, and those same people are quick to condemn us for that, as well - you can't win with these people, why try so hard?)

Then again, some folks are just that clueless. When my son was born, I fed him that night and he immediately dropped off to sleep. (Nursing mothers know that the real milk doesn't come in for about three days - and that's okay - babies get a little colostrum, nothing more, and it's enough to last them until the milk comes.) I sent him back to the nursery so I could sleep, and enjoy my painkillers, without worrying that someone might abduct him while I slept. Fifteen minutes later, they called me. "Can we give your son some formula?"

"Why?"

"He's hungry."

"He's breastfed, and I just fed him. He was sound asleep fifteen minutes ago."

"Well, now he's inconsolable." I kid you not; the nurse used the word inconsolable. "Can we just give him a little sugar water? Please?"

"No! What is wrong with you people? Just bring him back to me!"

So they did. I put him to the breast, and he promptly fell asleep. He had NO interest in eating or drinking - and he was exhausted, not inconsolable. I put him into the bassinet. I could not get back to sleep, and he wouldn't wake up and play, so I walked to the nursery. It was just across the hall; I figured if anyone tried to abduct my son, I'd see or hear them and could do a flying tackle. Call me "hyped on hormones," but I was ready for 'em. And I saw the problem. Babies, when they're born, are given eye drops (or ointment) to prevent infection. They have sensitive little eyes - they've spent nine months in dark, wet, warmth and suddenly they're assaulted by dry air, chemicals, and LIGHT. And the insensitive boobs in the nursery didn't even bother to dim the lights at night, or to shield the little ones' eyes in any way.

Later, when I fed him again and sent him back to the nursery, I suggested that they throw a lightweight receiving blanket across the head of the bassinet, to block the light. That worked like a charm. The nursery staff expressed their amazement. How clever! I just rolled my eyes. My son and I could not get home fast enough - as soon as that 24 hours was up, we were OUTTA there. You could see the tension draining from him as we crossed the threshhold into "home."

If he'd been my first child, I might have bought into that whole "inconsolable" bit. I might've given up breastfeeding altogether - surely I was inadequate to feed my child, and formula would fill him up and make him sleep soundly. And he would no longer be inconsolable. I shudder to think what we'd have missed.

ashley

Don't get me started on hospital staff.  My 2nd was preemie by about 6 weeks and I didn't even get to nurse her for the first 24 hours.  I still think that's why she has so many problems with allergies and eczema.  They gave her formula and calorie boosters so she could gain weight when I was perfectly willing and able to nurse her.

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